<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: 10g Upgrade</title>
	<atom:link href="http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/</link>
	<description>Just another Oracle weblog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 May 2013 12:47:17 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Time on Stats &#171; Oracle Scratchpad</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-35546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Time on Stats &#171; Oracle Scratchpad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-35546</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] Filed under: Infrastructure, Statistics &#8212; Jonathan Lewis @ 6:35 pm UTC Feb 20,2010   In a blog that&#8217;s now three years old I pointed out the issue of the automatic stats collection job and the way it could affect [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Filed under: Infrastructure, Statistics &#8212; Jonathan Lewis @ 6:35 pm UTC Feb 20,2010   In a blog that&#8217;s now three years old I pointed out the issue of the automatic stats collection job and the way it could affect [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Santosh Kumar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-32281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Santosh Kumar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 07:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-32281</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I have same issue in Oracle Apps environment. How to deal with the situation when you are using FND_STATS for gathering stats?

I tried the following but they didn&#039;t help:
alter session set &quot;_optimizer_cost_based_transformation&quot; =off;

alter session set &quot;_gby_hash_aggregation_enabled&quot; = FALSE;

Waiting for your reply.
Thanks,
Santosh Kumar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have same issue in Oracle Apps environment. How to deal with the situation when you are using FND_STATS for gathering stats?</p>
<p>I tried the following but they didn&#8217;t help:<br />
alter session set &#8220;_optimizer_cost_based_transformation&#8221; =off;</p>
<p>alter session set &#8220;_gby_hash_aggregation_enabled&#8221; = FALSE;</p>
<p>Waiting for your reply.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Santosh Kumar</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31795</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[What scripts can determine as to whether or not a histogram in 10G is worthy?

I have my stats package using AUTO and I have over 600 tables with 80K columns.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What scripts can determine as to whether or not a histogram in 10G is worthy?</p>
<p>I have my stats package using AUTO and I have over 600 tables with 80K columns.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31678</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sam,

Any change on a production system to a global feature like stats collection could have unpredictable side-effects - so I can&#039;t tell you whether there is any danger in stopping histogram collection on the syatem schema. You could side-step that issue by writing your own job that does &quot;gather schema stats&quot; on the system schema before allowing Oracle&#039;s default stats collection to run.

The pitiful response against tablespaces and files could be related to a problem with statistics - it is possible for queries for used extents to run very inefficiently, a problem that could be exacerbated by partitioned tables with lots of partitions. If you are licenced to use the Performance Pack, you might try to capture the SQL used by OEM for these reports and see if the SQL tuning tool gives you any advice about statistics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Any change on a production system to a global feature like stats collection could have unpredictable side-effects &#8211; so I can&#8217;t tell you whether there is any danger in stopping histogram collection on the syatem schema. You could side-step that issue by writing your own job that does &#8220;gather schema stats&#8221; on the system schema before allowing Oracle&#8217;s default stats collection to run.</p>
<p>The pitiful response against tablespaces and files could be related to a problem with statistics &#8211; it is possible for queries for used extents to run very inefficiently, a problem that could be exacerbated by partitioned tables with lots of partitions. If you are licenced to use the Performance Pack, you might try to capture the SQL used by OEM for these reports and see if the SQL tuning tool gives you any advice about statistics.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-31644</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan,

I know I am late to the table, we have just finally upgraded to 10g.  Performance was bad until we made sure all instances had good system stats. 
 
We have a couple of schemas which still perform badly. One is a warehousing schema which contains many partitioned tables.  I am not sure why but when we gather stats manually on the affected tables (those performing badly during data loads).  Performance returns to normal.  It seems like the auto stats process is not gathering good stats on these tables.  The script we have been using did not set METHOD_OPT so we were using the 10g default.
The second schema is an OLTP system which performs many updates to quantity columns, only a small percentage of the other attributes change.  Oracle has gathered many histograms on this schema.
I would like to change the METHOD_OPT parameter to the 9i default.  However, since the auto stats gathering process also gathers stats on system tables.  I am concerned that changing the default METHOD_OPT will impact stats on the system tables.   Is there a danger in setting &#039;METHOD_OPT&#039; to &#039;FOR ALL COLUMNS SIZE 1&#039; for the gathering of stats on the system tables?

We have been using all the defaults with disastrous results using OEM to view tablespaces and files.  Response is pitiful against LMT (as much as 5 minutes) but great against the system tablespace which is still DMT (1 -2 seconds).  This applies only to 10g databases.  We still have a few 9.2.0.7 because 3rd party vendors are not ready.  A TAR with oracle did not help.  I gave up after more than a month of running queries and submitting trace file after trace file.

Do you have any comments on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan,</p>
<p>I know I am late to the table, we have just finally upgraded to 10g.  Performance was bad until we made sure all instances had good system stats. </p>
<p>We have a couple of schemas which still perform badly. One is a warehousing schema which contains many partitioned tables.  I am not sure why but when we gather stats manually on the affected tables (those performing badly during data loads).  Performance returns to normal.  It seems like the auto stats process is not gathering good stats on these tables.  The script we have been using did not set METHOD_OPT so we were using the 10g default.<br />
The second schema is an OLTP system which performs many updates to quantity columns, only a small percentage of the other attributes change.  Oracle has gathered many histograms on this schema.<br />
I would like to change the METHOD_OPT parameter to the 9i default.  However, since the auto stats gathering process also gathers stats on system tables.  I am concerned that changing the default METHOD_OPT will impact stats on the system tables.   Is there a danger in setting &#8216;METHOD_OPT&#8217; to &#8216;FOR ALL COLUMNS SIZE 1&#8242; for the gathering of stats on the system tables?</p>
<p>We have been using all the defaults with disastrous results using OEM to view tablespaces and files.  Response is pitiful against LMT (as much as 5 minutes) but great against the system tablespace which is still DMT (1 -2 seconds).  This applies only to 10g databases.  We still have a few 9.2.0.7 because 3rd party vendors are not ready.  A TAR with oracle did not help.  I gave up after more than a month of running queries and submitting trace file after trace file.</p>
<p>Do you have any comments on this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: 10g Upgrade - issues with DBMS_STATS package &#171; Mani&#8217;s Oracle Scratchpad</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-29381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[10g Upgrade - issues with DBMS_STATS package &#171; Mani&#8217;s Oracle Scratchpad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-29381</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] degradation after 10g upgrade.  I quickly went there and did a search and found out this URL http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/, excellently explaining the change in the behaviour of dbms_stats package.  In [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] degradation after 10g upgrade.  I quickly went there and did a search and found out this URL <a href="http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/" rel="nofollow">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/</a>, excellently explaining the change in the behaviour of dbms_stats package.  In [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Santosh Kumar</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-28200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Santosh Kumar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-28200</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Simply one of the simplest explanation I have ever gone through. Now I better understand why I&#039;m facing so many performance issues after upgrading to 10g. Thanks a lot Jonathan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply one of the simplest explanation I have ever gone through. Now I better understand why I&#8217;m facing so many performance issues after upgrading to 10g. Thanks a lot Jonathan.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pythian Group Blog &#187; Log Buffer #31: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3914</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pythian Group Blog &#187; Log Buffer #31: a Carnival of the Vanities for DBAs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 03:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3914</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[[...] of DBAs are tackling upgrades to Oracle 10, and here are a couple items on this. One post on the 10g upgrade is from Jonathan Lewis&#8217;s Oracle Scratchpad: &#8220;When you upgrade to 10g from 9i you may [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of DBAs are tackling upgrades to Oracle 10, and here are a couple items on this. One post on the 10g upgrade is from Jonathan Lewis&#8217;s Oracle Scratchpad: &#8220;When you upgrade to 10g from 9i you may [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3082</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3082</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Sean, important point that I should have made clearer: as you say, it&#039;s not that the new method is bad, it&#039;s simply different and if you&#039;re trying to identify the important issues you want to try and address one thing at a time.

Cos, I&#039;ve seen it; it&#039;s a good read, but a little heavy going in places. It may help some people to recognise some of the changes that have appeared in their upgrade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, important point that I should have made clearer: as you say, it&#8217;s not that the new method is bad, it&#8217;s simply different and if you&#8217;re trying to identify the important issues you want to try and address one thing at a time.</p>
<p>Cos, I&#8217;ve seen it; it&#8217;s a good read, but a little heavy going in places. It may help some people to recognise some of the changes that have appeared in their upgrade.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cos</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3078</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 22:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/10g-upgrade/#comment-3078</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Nice.  Some refreshing stuff.  Interesting, neat, cleanly presented and to the point. And giving you something to think about and investigate some more. Jonathan Lewis style! ;-)

Another interesting topic/article &quot;Cost-Based Query Tranformation in Oracle&quot; at http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1164215&amp;dl=ACM&amp;coll=&amp;CFID=15151515&amp;CFTOKEN=6184618 

Thought you might want to comment/expand on that, as a topic for a future blog post  ;-)  

thx,
Cos]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice.  Some refreshing stuff.  Interesting, neat, cleanly presented and to the point. And giving you something to think about and investigate some more. Jonathan Lewis style! ;-)</p>
<p>Another interesting topic/article &#8220;Cost-Based Query Tranformation in Oracle&#8221; at <a href="http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1164215&#038;dl=ACM&#038;coll=&#038;CFID=15151515&#038;CFTOKEN=6184618" rel="nofollow">http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1164215&#038;dl=ACM&#038;coll=&#038;CFID=15151515&#038;CFTOKEN=6184618</a> </p>
<p>Thought you might want to comment/expand on that, as a topic for a future blog post  ;-)  </p>
<p>thx,<br />
Cos</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
