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		<title>By: Plans gone AWRy &#8211; an invASHtigation &#171; OraStory</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Plans gone AWRy &#8211; an invASHtigation &#171; OraStory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] some organisations, by the time you&#8217;ve got access five or six days might have passed. 35 and 42 days are oft-mentioned sensible suggestions, mostly so that a) you&#8217;ve got a decent time [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] some organisations, by the time you&#8217;ve got access five or six days might have passed. 35 and 42 days are oft-mentioned sensible suggestions, mostly so that a) you&#8217;ve got a decent time [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marco,

There&#039;s alway an argument for keeping everything &quot;just in case&quot;. If you can, and your queries, and the runtime for taking snapshots and running the spreport, don&#039;t start taking up excess resources you can just do it.

One strategy that I&#039;ve seen from time to time is the hourly snapshot for a few weeks, then a daily snapshot for a year or so. You don&#039;t have the detail, of course, but for slow trends it can be helpful.

9i makes it easy to implement this strategy as it allows you to label a snapshot as a &lt;em&gt;&quot;baseline&quot;&lt;/em&gt; - and the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;sppurge.sql&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; script doesn&#039;t delete snapshots that are baselines.  (Don&#039;t forget to coalesce indexes from time to time, though - and you may want to see if you can do something sensible with the setting for &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;pctused&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; on the tables).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s alway an argument for keeping everything &#8220;just in case&#8221;. If you can, and your queries, and the runtime for taking snapshots and running the spreport, don&#8217;t start taking up excess resources you can just do it.</p>
<p>One strategy that I&#8217;ve seen from time to time is the hourly snapshot for a few weeks, then a daily snapshot for a year or so. You don&#8217;t have the detail, of course, but for slow trends it can be helpful.</p>
<p>9i makes it easy to implement this strategy as it allows you to label a snapshot as a <em>&#8220;baseline&#8221;</em> &#8211; and the <em><strong>sppurge.sql</strong></em> script doesn&#8217;t delete snapshots that are baselines.  (Don&#8217;t forget to coalesce indexes from time to time, though &#8211; and you may want to see if you can do something sensible with the setting for <em><strong>pctused</strong></em> on the tables).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Shepard</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Shepard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Later this year, the U.S. Postal Service will be charging 42 cents for a first-class stamp.  I&#039;m seriously hoping they&#039;ll adopt a Hitchhiker&#039;s Guide theme.

Jonathan:  I loved your RMOUG presentations.  I&#039;ve been playing with optimizer statistics all week, just trying to wrap my brain around the concept.

There are 10 kinds of people in this world:  those who understand binary, and those who don&#039;t.

101010]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Later this year, the U.S. Postal Service will be charging 42 cents for a first-class stamp.  I&#8217;m seriously hoping they&#8217;ll adopt a Hitchhiker&#8217;s Guide theme.</p>
<p>Jonathan:  I loved your RMOUG presentations.  I&#8217;ve been playing with optimizer statistics all week, just trying to wrap my brain around the concept.</p>
<p>There are 10 kinds of people in this world:  those who understand binary, and those who don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>101010</p>
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		<title>By: Mark W. Farnham</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark W. Farnham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the base 13 reference. Now I won&#039;t be 42 until December, while I&#039;ve been thinking I was already over 50!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the base 13 reference. Now I won&#8217;t be 42 until December, while I&#8217;ve been thinking I was already over 50!</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Gralike</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30103</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Gralike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Grumpy&quot; aka Marco Gralike ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Grumpy&#8221; aka Marco Gralike ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Gralike</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marco Gralike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am 42 and a &quot;grumpy old men&quot;. But what would give me a year&#039;s data (same period a year ago) when the actual date of the changing trending profile happened 159 days ago I didn&#039;t see it on time and / or the business noticed (unforeseeable) / &quot;detected&quot; it for me, in that time period. Business demands follow other rules then actual fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 42 and a &#8220;grumpy old men&#8221;. But what would give me a year&#8217;s data (same period a year ago) when the actual date of the changing trending profile happened 159 days ago I didn&#8217;t see it on time and / or the business noticed (unforeseeable) / &#8220;detected&#8221; it for me, in that time period. Business demands follow other rules then actual fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Noons</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30101</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Found it useful to use the statspack export facility: that way I can export and clean up every six months and import the data back to my little play database in the laptop, where I can analyze it to my heart&#039;s content.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found it useful to use the statspack export facility: that way I can export and clean up every six months and import the data back to my little play database in the laptop, where I can analyze it to my heart&#8217;s content.</p>
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		<title>By: Flado</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/42/#comment-30096</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m keeping six months of Statspack data online, and I never needed anything more than gathering Optimizer statistics to make sure my queries return in reasonable time (seconds). Of course, I&#039;m always careful to do complete joins, including DBID and INSTANCE_NUMBER even on this non-RAC database. I find the &#039;natural join&#039; syntax very helpful for this.
Thanks for the Douglas Adams reference - it&#039;s always reassuring to know this great man&#039;s words live on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m keeping six months of Statspack data online, and I never needed anything more than gathering Optimizer statistics to make sure my queries return in reasonable time (seconds). Of course, I&#8217;m always careful to do complete joins, including DBID and INSTANCE_NUMBER even on this non-RAC database. I find the &#8216;natural join&#8217; syntax very helpful for this.<br />
Thanks for the Douglas Adams reference &#8211; it&#8217;s always reassuring to know this great man&#8217;s words live on.</p>
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