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		<title>By: Robert Klemme</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/upgrades/#comment-32120</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Klemme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan, thanks for fixing the comment!  Yes, this was with an unpatched 10.2.0.2 IIRC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, thanks for fixing the comment!  Yes, this was with an unpatched 10.2.0.2 IIRC.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/upgrades/#comment-32113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert,
I&#039;ve inserted the &quot;less than&quot; sign the Wordpress took out. (I assume that&#039;s what it was).

I suspect this must have been early in 9.2 or 10.2 - I&#039;m fairly sure I remember seeing cases where the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mreadtim &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;was used in the arithmetic even when it was smaller than the &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;sreadtim &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;and the whole &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mreadtim / sreadtim &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;adjustment should have been ignored.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
I&#8217;ve inserted the &#8220;less than&#8221; sign the WordPress took out. (I assume that&#8217;s what it was).</p>
<p>I suspect this must have been early in 9.2 or 10.2 &#8211; I&#8217;m fairly sure I remember seeing cases where the <em><strong>mreadtim </strong></em>was used in the arithmetic even when it was smaller than the <em><strong>sreadtim </strong></em>and the whole <em><strong>mreadtim / sreadtim </strong></em>adjustment should have been ignored.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Klemme</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/upgrades/#comment-32111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Klemme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Jonathan!

We had a situation at a customer site where MREADTIM &lt; SREADTIM.  We then experimented with those system stats and table stats from the production DB in a test database.  We never got the FTS back so I figured that the system stats must have had this effect.  (I also found a comment with similar content somewhere.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jonathan!</p>
<p>We had a situation at a customer site where MREADTIM &lt; SREADTIM.  We then experimented with those system stats and table stats from the production DB in a test database.  We never got the FTS back so I figured that the system stats must have had this effect.  (I also found a comment with similar content somewhere.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/upgrades/#comment-32106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert,

I think &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/05/20/system-stats-strategy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;system stats &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;don&#039;t get mentioned much because they aren&#039;t automatic in 9i, and the defaults in 10g are generally adequate so few people notice that they are there.

Certainly, though, there were some cases where odd things happened in the early days, in some versions, when people tried to use them in 9i and got odd values - so any trouble-shooting job should include a quick check on current values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>I think <em><strong><a href="http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2007/05/20/system-stats-strategy/" rel="nofollow">system stats </a></strong></em>don&#8217;t get mentioned much because they aren&#8217;t automatic in 9i, and the defaults in 10g are generally adequate so few people notice that they are there.</p>
<p>Certainly, though, there were some cases where odd things happened in the early days, in some versions, when people tried to use them in 9i and got odd values &#8211; so any trouble-shooting job should include a quick check on current values.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Klemme</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/upgrades/#comment-32070</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Klemme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems so - although I do not have any evidence to back this either way.

While we&#039;re at it: I am under the impression that system stats are somewhat underestimated.  One can read frequently about table and schema stats but it is rarely suggested in public forums to check system stats although they can have a dramatic impact on execution plans (namely if MREADTIM &lt; SREADTIM).  Does anybody else have that impression of underestimation?

Greetings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems so &#8211; although I do not have any evidence to back this either way.</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re at it: I am under the impression that system stats are somewhat underestimated.  One can read frequently about table and schema stats but it is rarely suggested in public forums to check system stats although they can have a dramatic impact on execution plans (namely if MREADTIM &lt; SREADTIM).  Does anybody else have that impression of underestimation?</p>
<p>Greetings</p>
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