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		<title>By: Oracle Database 12c and its features&#8230; &#171; musingdba</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50844</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oracle Database 12c and its features&#8230; &#171; musingdba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jonathan Lewis &#8211; Indexing 12c and Partitioning 12c [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jonathan Lewis &#8211; Indexing 12c and Partitioning 12c [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tanel Poder</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanel Poder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 04:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember the old DSI optimizer material saying that _optimizer_search_limit = 5 means that CBO will evaluate up to 5 factorial (120) join permutations which may include cartesian joins and from then onwards only non-cartesian join orders (up to optimizer_max_permutations) per query block.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the old DSI optimizer material saying that _optimizer_search_limit = 5 means that CBO will evaluate up to 5 factorial (120) join permutations which may include cartesian joins and from then onwards only non-cartesian join orders (up to optimizer_max_permutations) per query block.</p>
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		<title>By: Uwe Hesse</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50637</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uwe Hesse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly: Good strategy if the customer has purchased the Partitioning Option anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly: Good strategy if the customer has purchased the Partitioning Option anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Indexing 12c &#171; Oracle Scratchpad</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50636</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Indexing 12c &#171; Oracle Scratchpad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] little detail that Hermann Baer mentioned in his presentation yesterday was the ability to create multiple indexes with the same column definition &#8211; something which [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] little detail that Hermann Baer mentioned in his presentation yesterday was the ability to create multiple indexes with the same column definition &#8211; something which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lewis</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uwe,

It&#039;s also interesting to consider that if Oracle doesn&#039;t make this a feature of non-partitioned tables you could always turn every (non-clustered)heap table into a single partition partitioned table simply so that you can move the partition online.  Simply create an empty partitioned cloned of the original table, then exchange partitions.  (Only suitable as a strategy if you have already paid for the partitioning option, of course.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uwe,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting to consider that if Oracle doesn&#8217;t make this a feature of non-partitioned tables you could always turn every (non-clustered)heap table into a single partition partitioned table simply so that you can move the partition online.  Simply create an empty partitioned cloned of the original table, then exchange partitions.  (Only suitable as a strategy if you have already paid for the partitioning option, of course.)</p>
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		<title>By: Uwe Hesse</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uwe Hesse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 06:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would certainly agree that the &#039;move online&#039; feature for partitions is a great improvement of Oracle Database 12c!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would certainly agree that the &#8216;move online&#8217; feature for partitions is a great improvement of Oracle Database 12c!</p>
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		<title>By: Pavol Babel</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pavol Babel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there were also many of them filed in testing phase :) but 8 after go to production... in 11.2.0.3. it is crazy, worst then microsoft I&#039;m affraid

instead of fixing significant shared pool isues we have 12c here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there were also many of them filed in testing phase :) but 8 after go to production&#8230; in 11.2.0.3. it is crazy, worst then microsoft I&#8217;m affraid</p>
<p>instead of fixing significant shared pool isues we have 12c here.</p>
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		<title>By: Timur Akhmadeev</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Timur Akhmadeev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 09:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Just 8 SRs&quot; :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just 8 SRs&#8221; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Pavol Babel</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50614</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pavol Babel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like new features and some of partitioning enhacements seems to be usefull. However we will not upgrade to 12c sooner than in 4 years.
We have upgraded our largest databaese (corebanking system application, 4500 users) recently (9.2.0.8 -&gt; 11.2.0.3). 11g has been relased 5 years ago (11gR2 3yeaes). I&#039;ve filed with my colleague 8 SR! 4 of them have quite big negative impact on business

- very silly new SQL  locking mechanism with FK on tables in RO tablespaces (introeuced in 10gr2, thank to God it is possible to switch it off)
- huge allocations in KGLH0 heaps and KKSSP even 11.2.0.3 (shared pool)
- many shared pool issues, BTW oracle was forced tu disable shared pool durations in 11.2.0.3 because of several bugs
- issue with select for update on table with FBI (also mentioned here on your blog)
- dataguard (max avsilability) issue, LNS process (primary) and RFS (standby) communication use to hang resulting into 30seconds &quot;whole database commit hang&quot; which is terrible for OLTP system. servers, disk subsystem and network are OK..
- index SS access path costed too low (index cost formula consider CLUF for index SS in same way as for index RS)
- flashback database dos not work with standby and TTS (unless tts are switched RO-&gt;RW-&gt;RO)

Regards
Pavol Babel]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like new features and some of partitioning enhacements seems to be usefull. However we will not upgrade to 12c sooner than in 4 years.<br />
We have upgraded our largest databaese (corebanking system application, 4500 users) recently (9.2.0.8 -&gt; 11.2.0.3). 11g has been relased 5 years ago (11gR2 3yeaes). I&#8217;ve filed with my colleague 8 SR! 4 of them have quite big negative impact on business</p>
<p>- very silly new SQL  locking mechanism with FK on tables in RO tablespaces (introeuced in 10gr2, thank to God it is possible to switch it off)<br />
- huge allocations in KGLH0 heaps and KKSSP even 11.2.0.3 (shared pool)<br />
- many shared pool issues, BTW oracle was forced tu disable shared pool durations in 11.2.0.3 because of several bugs<br />
- issue with select for update on table with FBI (also mentioned here on your blog)<br />
- dataguard (max avsilability) issue, LNS process (primary) and RFS (standby) communication use to hang resulting into 30seconds &#8220;whole database commit hang&#8221; which is terrible for OLTP system. servers, disk subsystem and network are OK..<br />
- index SS access path costed too low (index cost formula consider CLUF for index SS in same way as for index RS)<br />
- flashback database dos not work with standby and TTS (unless tts are switched RO-&gt;RW-&gt;RO)</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Pavol Babel</p>
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		<title>By: Noons</title>
		<link>http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/partitioning-12c/#comment-50612</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 05:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm....  Given the largest sections of the SQL manual already are by far the CREATE and ALTER TABLE ones, I shudder at the thought of what this is going to do to them...
Still: very cool stuff, indeed!  And most welcome.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.  Given the largest sections of the SQL manual already are by far the CREATE and ALTER TABLE ones, I shudder at the thought of what this is going to do to them&#8230;<br />
Still: very cool stuff, indeed!  And most welcome.</p>
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